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Poster: light into ashes Date: Dec 6, 2011 11:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: No excuse necessary ...

I posted a variety of reviews here, so you can read the controversy!
http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2011/06/dark-star-12673-guest-post.html

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Poster: yesss! Date: Dec 6, 2011 4:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: No excuse necessary ...

great post, thanks. the mellower jams of late '73 are pretty hit and miss with me, but i really love this dark star- especially the arpeggio/drone/feedback section from 17:30-21:30. billy sitting out makes that space feel so deep and intimate, and phil's controlled feedback is awesome. a really nice zone. lots of other great nooks and crannies throughout the rest of the tune as well.

and for people who find the star to be too long or boring- do what i did and make an edited version for your own enjoyment. i know it is blasphemy, but i have used protools to shorten and edit several jams that i love but that have sections that, to me, don't work as well as the rest of the piece. i got this beast down to 24:36 and you can't even tell where the cuts are!

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Poster: snori Date: Dec 6, 2011 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: No excuse necessary ...

Thanks for posting that LIA. I think this Dark Star is challenging, and I will admit to finding parts of it dull, but overall the great moments (and Keith !) win out and after all isn't this kind of exploration why we come here.

You want controversy ? Which is the better China/Rider ? This or 1974-02-24 ?

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Poster: LazyLight Date: Dec 6, 2011 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: No excuse necessary ...

"You want controversy ? Which is the better China/Rider ? This or 1974-02-24 ?"

I think you mis-spelled 1974-05-19

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Poster: snori Date: Dec 6, 2011 3:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: No excuse necessary ...

Entirely posssible, I'm not completely in charge of my keyboard at the moment so I'll accept a three-way tie.

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Poster: BVD Date: Dec 6, 2011 3:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: No excuse necessary ...

Regarding China/Rider; bot you guys spelled it wrong. It's this one 4/8/72

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Poster: scotch_glass Date: Dec 6, 2011 4:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: No excuse necessary ...

I agree with your adjective of "challenging" to describe this Dark Star. Personally, I'm not a big fan, the long spacy segments kind of make me lose interest after a while and there is never a moment that grabs me and brings me back into it. I respect it as a great Dark Star but not one of my top versions and not one I will listen to regularly.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Dec 6, 2011 12:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: No excuse necessary ...

Sadly it isn't and never was the kind exploratory music most "deadheads" enjoyed,thus the controversy,but fuck them it is a brilliant piece of music.